Genius: Nothing is forever. The universe will suffer heat death due to entropy.
Plato: An anti-eternity does not solve the problem of universals.
Genius: It’s not a “problem.” It’s an “idea.”
Plato: If the properties of an idea are applied universally, they hold independent of agency.
Plato: Ideas are eternal.
Genius: Only in our minds.
Plato: Not necessarily. Name its root cause.
Genius: The mind is the tree of axon-dendrite connections over action potentials (like potential difference in a circuit) spawning electrochemical induced imagery. It is not the imagery itself but the seat of the imagery, from memory formation till death.
Plato: But you’ve explained nothing except to say that the mind is the seat of imagery.
Genius: Which is not eternal.
Plato: The mind, or ideas?
Genius: Both. Neither.
Plato: You like the Vedic thought process, but not its conclusions.
Plato: Ok, let’s track back. How does your “seat of imagery” make decisions? Love, hate, desire, prohibit, inhibit?
Genius: Those things make us human, but animals have them too. We are just more complex animals.
Plato: But how do you explain volition?
Genius: Predicate logic. On/off, yes/no. All decisions can be reduced to that.
Plato: If you only but knew.
Genius: Ooh, mysterious.
Genius: Look, we are born then we die, these are the highlights anyway. What comes inbetween is “meaningful” in some loose, let’s-make-the-best-of-it kinda way.
Plato: For a moment there I thought you were going to quote sentimental pop art. In summation then, you’re saying you’re a current of electricity kept alive by a circuit board.
Genius: Not really, you’re over simplifying.
Plato: No, you are.
Genius: Existence is meaningless, we give it meaning by conforming to reality.
Plato: But what is this reality you speak of?
Genius: The world as it truly is, behind the false perceptions and lies of idiots. The thing-in-itself, das Ding an Sich.
Plato: The thing-in-itself, this reality, is timeless.
Genius: We only know it through time.
Plato: If it exists outside or independent of time, and we only know it through time, that does not change its true nature.
Genius: Words. If there is no time, life doesn’t make sense.
Plato: Who wants to get rid of time?
Plato: Look at it this way, time records events.
Genius: Yes, but without events, we’re cows in the field, chewing cud.
Plato: Events give context to cause and effect, including mundane behavior like you describe.
Plato: The first cause makes life possible.
Genius: Now you’re in infinite regress.
Genius: It’s illogical. The universe is logical, at the very least.
Plato: Both can be false and it would still work.
Plato: Infinity is where mathematics stops trying, hence the “limit as x approaches lamda.” An illogical universe only means that the logic of the subject cannot understand that of the object.
Genius: An illogical object implies an illogical subject.
Plato: It is your doubt that will ruin you.
Genius: Skeptics will find the truth!
Plato: But will they know what to do with it?
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Genius: The universe created itself out of awareness of its own absence. You said that. It follows that it will destroy itself with an analogous method.
Plato: It does not follow.